Showing posts with label nese. Show all posts
Showing posts with label nese. Show all posts

Thursday, October 27, 2011

Question: Is Rental Income Earned Income?

In most cases this question relates to a beneficiary who owns a house that he/she rents out, or when a beneficiary lives in a house and rents out a room or owns a duplex that he/she lives in and rents out the other unit.

The basic rule of thumb in cases like these is that net rental income counts as unearned income (meaning not subject to FICA per POMS Section RS 02505.240) unless it is earned income from self-employment (e.g., someone who is in the business of renting properties). This is actually stated very clearly for SSI recipients in the POMS.

Of course, for SSI recipients, unearned income is treated less favorably than earned income since only the $20 General Income Exclusion is applied to unearned income. In addition, if the SSI recipient owns a home which he/she does not live in because it is rented out, then the property would be a countable resource.

If the SSI recipient is actually self-employed and in the business of renting property, then any Net Earnings from Self-Employment (NESE) the business generates would be decreased by any applicable work incentives when SSA is determining countable NESE. The countable NESE would affect the SSI cash payment in the usual manner.

On the Title II side, it is more complicated. There is no specific citation in the DI section of the POMS saying that rental income is not counted as earned unless the beneficiary is self-employed in the business of renting properties. This is implied when SSA defines what to count by describing earnings or self-employment income as income a person receives in exchange for his/her work activity – it is remuneration for work performed. In most cases, simply renting out one’s home or a portion of one’s home would not constitute work activity – it is too passive and is not subject to FICA. Unless a beneficiary is engaged in the business of renting property, the money received from renting a single house would typically NOT be considered earned income. If the rental income is not considered to be earned, then it would not be considered when SSA makes TWP or SGA determinations.

Of course, there are times when the situation becomes more complicated. What if the person rents out multiple pieces of property – does that mean the person is in the rental business? SSA must make the decision on a case-by-case basis. They first look to see if the beneficiary is engaged in “trade or business.” To make this determination, the SSA asks the following questions:

· Is there a good faith intention of making a profit or producing income?
· Is there continuity of operations, repetition of transactions, or regularity of activities?
· Are the functions being performed a regular occupation or profession?
· Is the beneficiary holding himself out to others as being engaged in the selling of goods or services?

(From POMS Section RS 01802.002)

SSA is looking for an overall pattern with these questions. One ‘yes’ answer to these questions is insufficient to make a determination of self-employment, but they need not all be answered with “yes” for self-employment to be determined to exist. If SSA determines that the beneficiary is self-employed, any countable NESE from the business will be considered during TWP and SGA determinations.

REMEMBER: Determinations of what is or is NOT earned income can only be made by SSA. If there is any doubt, refer the beneficiary to the local Social Security Field Office for clarification. If the beneficiary does not agree with the determination rendered by SSA, he/she may request reconsideration as part of the standard appeals process.


Any questions may be directed to: rsi5@srt.com

Thursday, November 12, 2009

Is Rental Income Earned Income?

Received this info from our WIPA National Training Center at Virginia Commonwealth University.
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I have had this question posed numerous times and the answer is (as it always seems to be) – Well…..it depends.

In most cases the question relates to a beneficiary who owns a house that he/she rents out, or when a beneficiary lives in a house and rents out a room or owns a duplex that he/she lives in and rents out the other unit. That is the situation I will address in this correspondence.

The basic rule of thumb in cases like these is that net rental income counts as unearned income (meaning not subject to FICA per POMS Section RS 02505.240) unless it is earned income from self-employment (e.g., someone who is in the business of renting properties). This is actually stated very clearly for SSI recipients in the POMS at: https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0500830505!opendocument

Of course, for SSI recipients, unearned income is treated less favorably than earned income since only the $20 General Income Exclusion is applied to unearned income. In addition, if the SSI recipient owns a home which he/she does not live in because it is rented out, then the property would be a countable resource.

If the SSI recipient is actually self-employed and in the business of renting property, then any Net Earnings from Self-Employment (NESE) the business generates would be decreased by any applicable work incentives when SSA is determining countable NESE. The countable NESE would affect the SSI cash payment in the usual manner. For a review of how the SSI program treats NESE, refer to the 2009 WIPA Training Manual - Module 3, Unit 6.

On the title II side, things are a little bit more complicated. There is no specific citation in the DI section of the POMS saying that rental income is not counted as earned unless the beneficiary is self-employed in the business of renting properties. This is implied when SSA defines what to count by describing earnings or self-employment income as income a person receives in exchange for his/her work activity – it is remuneration for work performed. In most cases, simply renting out one’s home or a portion of one’s home would not constitute work activity – it is too passive and is not subject to FICA. Unless a beneficiary is engaged in the business of renting property, the money received from renting a single house would typically NOT be considered to be earned income. If the rental income is not considered to be earned, then it would not be considered when SSA makes TWP or SGA determinations.

Of course, there are all sorts of situations in which things can get pretty murky. What if the person rents out multiple pieces of property – does that mean the person is in the rental business? SSA has to sort these situations out one-by-one. The first thing they do is look to see if the beneficiary is engaged in “trade or business”. To make this determination, the SSA asks the following questions:

· Is there a good faith intention of making a profit or producing income?
· Is there continuity of operations, repetition of transactions, or regularity of activities?
· Are the functions being performed a regular occupation or profession?
· Is the beneficiary holding himself out to others as being engaged in the selling of goods or services?

(From POMS Section RS 01802.002)

With these questions, the SSA is looking for an overall pattern. One ‘yes’ answer to these questions is insufficient to make a determination of self-employment, but they need not all be answered with “yes” for self-employment to be determined to exist. If SSA determines that the beneficiary is self-employed, any countable NESE from the business will be considered during TWP and SGA determinations.

REMEMBER – Determinations of what is or is NOT earned income can only be made by SSA. If there is any doubt, refer the beneficiary to the local Social Security Field Office for clarification. If the beneficiary does not agree with the determination rendered by SSA, he/she may request reconsideration as part of the standard appeals process.


Any questions may be directed to: rsi5@srt.com

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

LLC Ruling


There are many questions regarding the interplay between SSA benefits and business structure. Structuring your business is an important decision and a recent ruling regarding LLC's and assets could help in deciding the best entity if you are a medicaid recipient.

OGC has issued an opinion on the LLC issue. The bottom line is that:

1. When an LLC member has conveyed property to the LLC, the member does not have a co-ownership or a transferable interest in the property and the property is not a resource attributable to the member.
2. The fact that an LLC may choose to have the entity taxed as a partnership or sole proprietorship does not alter the fact that property conveyed to the LLC is owned by the LLC, not by any of its members.
3. Property owned by an LLC (and thus, not by any of its members) cannot be excluded under the PESS provisions as property that an individual owns and uses in a trade or business.
4. An LLC member's distributional interest in the LLC, like stock in a corporation, cannot be excluded as PESS and is a resource to the extent that it can be converted to cash and used for food or shelter.

If you have a business set up as an LLC, please be aware of the potential consequences of the LLC structure, including loss of Medicaid.

Any questions may be directed to: rsi5@srt.com